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LIFE GOES
ON: AN INTRODUCTION
MY
GRANDPARENTS - I - MY GREAT-GRANDPARENTS - I - MY
GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS - I - MY
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
THE SIXTEEN
FAMILIES
KNOTT - I - BOWLES - I - WATERS - I - HARRALL - I - PAGE - I - WISEMAN - I - CROSS - I - CARTER
CORNWELL - I - HUCKLE - I - MORTLOCK - I - MANSFIELD - I - REYNOLDS - I - CARTER - I - ANABLE - I - STEARN
CHRONOLOGY - I - DRAMATIS PERSONAE - I - WHERE PEOPLE CAME FROM - I - CALENDAR
MAP OF ELY - I - MAP OF MEDWAY
MAP OF
CAMBRIDGE AND DISTRICT
THE
WORKHOUSE
WORLD WAR I - I - WORLD WAR II
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LIFE GOES
ON
Herbert Page
born Ely,
Cambridgeshire 12th February 1883
died St Eloi near Ypres, France 2nd March 1916
on the Page family tree
part of the Page
and Wiseman family stories
married to Eliza Woodbine
brother of Arthur
Page, Henry
Page, Robert
Page and Thomas
Page
son of
Henry Page
and Alice Wiseman
Herbert
Page (1883-1916). My
Father's Mother's Father's Brother. My
Great-Great-Uncle..
Herbert Page was the younger brother of my
great-grandfather Arthur Page. The Pages were a large
family, and lived in the Back Hill area of Ely. Notable
for his short stature, Herbert seems to have made up for
this by a maverick attitude and a somewhat unruly
lifestyle, but he more or less settled down at the age of
25 when he was married. He was killed on the 2nd of March
1916 at St Eloi, on the Ypres Salient in Flanders, while
engaged in bomb-throwing duty. He was 33 years old. His
brother Arthur was also killed in WWI.
1883:
Herbert was born on the 12th February at
Annesdale, Ely, Cambridgeshire
and baptised in the Lady Chapel of Ely Cathedral
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1891
census:
Herbert was seven
years old at the time of the 1891 census.
The Page family were living in Broad
Street, Ely, Cambridgeshire.
Herbert's father
Henry is shown as a labourer.
He was 38 years old. His mother Alice was
36 years old.
Herbert was the
fourth of seven children at the time of
the 1891 census. Henry was 16,
Arthur was 12, John was 9, Robert was 5,
Susan was 3 and Thomas was 10 months.
Herbert
was born in Ely,
Cambridgeshire, as were his siblings and
his mother. His father Henry's place of
birth is given as Shelford,
Cambridgeshire. The transcript for their
entry is here.
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1900: Herbert's
army service record survives, and shows that on
22nd July he signed up as a Boy in the Reserve of
the 4th Battalion of the Suffolk Regiment, when
he claimed to be a month short of his 15th
birthday. In fact, he was nearly 18. The reason
for this strange anomaly is probably that he was
just four feet eight and half inches tall and was
thus too short to be signed up at his real age as
an adult soldier. Herbert weighed ninety pounds,
his hair was brown, his eyes were grey, and he
had a mole above his right buttock. He claimed to
be a Wesleyan Methodist. He enlisted for six
years. Herbert's service record shows that he
spent most of 1900 in Dover, Kent, and returned
to Ely in October when his reserve regiment was
disembodied. He would be called up annually to
the reserve until the First World War began.
1901:
On 29th March, the Cambridge Independent
Press reported that Herbert's father Henry
Page, a labourer of of Willow Walk in Ely, was
charged at Ely Petty Sessions at the instance of
Inspector Dixon of the NSPCC with cruelly
ill-treating his children - Susan (aged 11),
Thomas (aged 9), Charles (aged 7), Sarah (aged 6)
and Nellie (aged 1) by wilfully and unlawfully
neglecting them. Herbert and the other adult
children living in the household were not
mentioned in the report. Henry Page pleaded not
guilty. The charge was brought because he had
failed to provide money for the family despite
his £7 payoff for six months with the Suffolk
Militia. Alice had been able to look after the
family while he had been away, but on his return
she had been forced to live apart from him
because he ill-treated her from time to time
and was unkind to the children. He demanded
from her the money she earned as a charwoman,
leaving her with only a few coppers, and she was
unable to provide enough food for the children.
Henry Page was given an exemplary sentence of six
months with hard labour.
1901
Census:
Herbert was eighteen years
old at the time of the 1901 census. The Page
family were living in Broad Street, Ely,
Cambridgeshire.
Herbert is shown as an errand
boy. His mother Alice was 44, and is
shown as a charwoman. Herbert's
father Henry was in prison at the time of the
1901 census.
Alice had seven children at
home at the time of the 1901 census. John, an
agricultural labourer, was 20, Herbert, an errand
boy, was 18, Susan was 14, Thomas was 10, Charles
was 8, Sarah 6 and Helen 1.
Alice was born in Ely,
Cambridgeshire, as were all the children. The
transcript for their entry is here.
1903: On 21st May, Herbert was
found drunk on duty while on call up to the
reserve of the 4th Batallion Suffolk Regiment.
His service record notes that he was fined two
shillings and confined to camp for three days.
1905: On
3rd June, Herbert was found to be absent from the
tattoo roll call, and then at 11.05pm that night
he was found drunk in the town. He was brought
before the Bounty Board and confined to camp for
four days.
1906:
On 5th May, Herbert was found guilty of improper
conduct in camp, and confined to camp for
five days. Hardly was this punishment over when,
on the 12th May, he was found drunk in the line
of march, and then absent from a tattoo roll
call, for which he was fined a total of two
shillings and sixpence and confined to camp for
six days.
1908: On 22nd May, Herbert was
absent from roll call and was confined to camp
for three days. This appears to have been his
last disciplinary action while a serving soldier.
1908:
Herbert married Eliza Woodbine in Ely,
probably at St Mary's church, in the 4th quarter
of the year. They moved into a house in
Back Lane. Their first child was called Herbert
after his father. He was born in Back Lane, Ely
on the 12th December, and baptised in Holy
Trinity parish on the 20th January 1909, probably
in St Peter's.
1909:
The Cambridge Independent Press reported on 5th
February 1909 that Herbert had appeared before
Ely magistrates on 1st February on a charge of
drunkenness. The newspaper noted that he admitted
the offence, and asked the bench to send him to
prison: If you please, can't I go to
Cambridge? That will do me a bit of good, and
teach me a lesson. Then I will try and be better.
He was sentenced to seven days in Cambridge
Gaol.
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1910: Herbert and
Eliza's second child, Charles Henry, was born in
Back Lane on 29th May, and baptised in St Peter's
on 22nd June.
1911 census: Herbert was twenty-eight years old
at the time of the 1911 census. The Page family
were living in Harlocks Lane, Ely.
Herbert is shown as a farm
labourer. His wife Eliza is 30 years
old.
There were two children at
the time of the 1911 census, Herbert aged 3 and
Charles aged 10 months. The whole family were
born in Ely. Also present on the night of the
census was a visitor, William Newby, a 29 year
old farm labourer, born at Haddenham.
1912: Herbert
and Eliza's third son, Harry, was born in
Harlocks Lane on 14th June, and baptised at St
Peter's on 6th July. He was named after Herbert's
father, by now a resident of the Ely Workhouse.
1914: Herbert
was discharged after 14 years of service with the
reserve of the Suffolk Regiment in January.
Herbert and Eliza'a first daughter, Alice, was
born in Harlocks Lane on 5th May, and baptised at
St Peter's on 27th May. Alice was named after
Herbert's mother, who had died two years
previously. Her cousin, my grandmother Phyllis
who was born the previous year, also had Alice as
a middle name. At this time, Herbert was a member
of the well-known Ely Silver Band, and on 27th
March 2014 the Ely Standard publish a
century-old photograph of the band on the Market
Hill, Ely, which can be seen at the top of this
page. The diminutive Herbert sits beside his drum
bottom right. As soon as War broke out, Herbert
re-enlisted, this time as a drummer boy with the 2nd
Battalion (12th foot) of the Suffolk Regiment,
and he was wounded in the foot in October 1914 at
the First Battle of Ypres. He was repatriated to
England.
1915:
Herbert appears to have been returned to
Flanders after recovering from his injury,
because Patrick
Ashton's book Remembering Ely: a history of
Ely's war memorial and men of the Great War
(2018) records a letter that Herbert wrote in
March 1915 from Lincoln Hospital, in which he
informs the recipient W McFall I have been
here about 18 days, being accidentally wounded
three weeks this Wednesday while up in a loft at
the back of the firing line. He goes on to
describe Ypres, presumably the place his accident
happened, as a beautiful city, but is now
ruined. Every place is shelled, and all around
there were some of the finest buildings I have
ever seen in my life. After recovering,
Herbert joined the Battalion band in Ely.
1916:
By early 1916, Eliza was pregnant again,
but Herbert was called back to duty in France. I
have heard a story from several sources that, the
night before embarking, Herbert did the rounds of
the pubs of the Waterside, drumming out a tattoo
on the tables to say goodbye to his friends. It
was the last time they would see him. Returning
to Flanders for a third tour of duty, he was
killed on the 2nd of March 1916 at St Eloi, on
the Ypres Salient in Flanders, while engaged in
bomb-throwing. He was 33 years old. He is
remembered on the Menin Gate Memorial in Ypres.
On
the 1st September 1916, almost exactly six months
after his death, Herbert and Eliza's daughter was
born in Springhead Lane, Ely, home of the
Woodbine family. She was given the name St Eloi
Souvenir Felixstowe. This was a grandiloquent
name for a child of the Waterside, but it was a
perpetual memory of her father's final resting
place, a reminder that the French word souvenir
was brought back by soldiers and entered the
English language at this time to mean a memory or
keepsake, and also perhaps a clue to Herbert's
residence while recovering from injury the
previous year, which may well have been a
convalescent home at Felixstowe on the Suffolk
coast. St Eloi was baptised in Holy Trinity
parish on the 20th September 1916, two months to
the day after Herbert's brother Arthur had been
killed in the Battle of the Somme.
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